I find listening to this tape over and over and over like a music tape, I am getting into Dogen's mind a little, and it is actually starting to make sense!!!! Egads, I should check myself in! It is really a different experience hearing it and trying to follow it, as compared to reading it. It has become sort of like poetry for me, I guess. Thanks to Gary Snyder and Kaz and Dogen. gassho.